Trump Warned Pence He'd Be a 'Wimp' for Certifying Election, New Book Reveals

Trump's Warning to Pence on January 6th

• 📢 A new book reveals that on January 6th, President Trump told Vice President Mike Pence he would be remembered as a "wimp" for certifying Biden's election.
• 📝 Pence's notes from a call with Trump indicate Trump's warning: "If you do that, I made a big mistake five years ago."
• 🛡️ Pence reportedly responded to Trump by stating, "You're not protecting our country. You're supposed to support and defend our country" and that upholding the law takes courage.

Special Counsel's Use of Pence's Notes

• ⚖️ Court filings show special counsel Jack Smith intended to use Pence's notes as evidence in the election interference case against Trump.
• 📄 Smith's original indictment suggested Pence's notes demonstrated Trump was corrected multiple times on his voter fraud claims.
• 📁 Before dropping the case, Smith reportedly told Merrick Garland he had sufficient evidence to convict Trump.

Reactions and Perspectives on January 6th

• 🗣️ Podcaster Katie Miller commented that Pence "did go down as a wimp," suggesting Americans didn't care about the events then or now.
• 💬 Josh Lefazan responded, asserting that Pence showed more patriotism than Miller's husband, given Trump's actions and the near-death experience of the VP.
• 🏛️ The discussion highlights the differing views on Trump's request to Pence, with some arguing Trump was asking Pence to break the law, while others focused on Trump's belief in election fraud.

Legal and Constitutional Interpretations

• 📜 The debate touches on whether it's illegal to be wrong about election fraud, with Jack Smith's prosecution focusing on Trump's intentional efforts to overturn a certified election.
• 🗳️ Some argue that persisting in the belief of having won an election, even after losing, was not previously considered a crime, citing examples of others who contested election results.
• ⚖️ A key point of contention is whether Trump's actions constituted a violation of the Constitution by asking the Vice President not to certify the election results.

Ongoing Beliefs About Election Legitimacy

• 🤔 The conversation notes that Trump continues to not admit he lost the election, with some interpreting this as intentionally not believing the facts.
• 🌐 One perspective suggests Trump believes interference from social media and moderation policies, at the behest of FBI agents, made the election results illegitimate.