Slate Political Gabfest: DOJ Corruption, Epstein Files, and Saudi Relations
SlateNovember 21, 202558 min3,549 views
32 connectionsΒ·40 entities in this videoβErosion of Justice Department Norms
- π‘ Emily Bazelon details her New York Times oral history, revealing how Trump's DOJ systematically undermined legal and moral norms.
- π― Prosecutors were allegedly fired for working on disfavored cases, ordered to find evidence for predetermined conclusions, or pressured to sign misleading statements.
- βοΈ A specific case highlighted a lawyer defending the government against challenges to an executive order, where a judge questioned the truthfulness of statements, invoking Rule 11 and threatening professional licenses.
- π The bosses dismissed these concerns as "NBD" (no big deal), indicating a breakdown in professionalism and a disregard for the lawyers' ethical and professional standing.
- π The oral history format was used to illustrate themes of systematic destruction and the cumulative weight of actions, making the overall impact clear despite the sprawling nature of the Justice Department.
Epstein Files and Political Maneuvering
- π President Trump signed a bill to release the Epstein documents, but significant loopholes could prevent incriminating information from being disclosed.
- β³ The move is seen as an exit strategy to stop the narrative of Trump withholding information, though the actual release of documents is uncertain due to potential retention by the Attorney General.
- π Trump's initial vehement opposition to releasing the files and subsequent capitulation suggest a shift in strategy as the tide turned, highlighting his skills in changing conversations but also an unpredictability in his actions.
- π Investigations were announced into Democrats for potential ties to Epstein, a move criticized for starting with targets rather than crimes and creating grounds to withhold documents under the guise of ongoing investigations.
- βοΈ The lack of a clear pathway to a Palestinian state is presented as a key reason why Saudi Arabia has not normalized relations with Israel, despite the Trump administration's efforts.
US-Saudi Relations and National Security
- π€ The visit of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS) provided validation and significant arms and technology deals for Saudi Arabia, including F-35s and AI chips.
- β The US received less clear benefits, with Saudi investment figures questioned and no progress on Israeli-Palestinian normalization.
- βοΈ Jake Sullivan acknowledges the complexity of MBS, balancing the condemnation of the Jamal Khashoggi murder with the need to engage with Saudi Arabia on regional stability, counter-terrorism, and economic partnerships.
- π‘ US national security interests with Saudi Arabia include oil prices, regional stability (countering Iran), combating terrorism, and potential technological partnerships, especially in AI competition with China.
- β οΈ Concerns are raised about the potential for advanced US technology, like AI chips, to be diverted to China, highlighting the need for strict security protocols.
Cocktail Chatter and Broader Themes
- π Calvin Duncan, a formerly incarcerated individual who became a jailhouse lawyer and was exonerated, won an election for Clerk of the Parish Criminal Court in New Orleans, aiming to improve access to criminal records.
- πΆ A heartwarming story features four baby cheetahs born at the Smithsonian's National Zoo, with a live camera feed providing a delightful and anxiety-reducing viewing experience.
- ποΈ The broader theme of the Trump administration is the establishment protecting itself, leading to the exploitation and discarding of those without power or money, as highlighted by the inaugural address's focus on the people bearing the costs of government.
- π The discussion concludes with a prediction that the Epstein issue may not have long-term negative consequences for Trump, while other economic issues like inflation and the Affordable Care Act may have a greater impact on his approval ratings.
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Department of JusticeTrump AdministrationEpstein FilesSaudi ArabiaMohammed bin Salman (MBS)Jamal KhashoggiUS Foreign PolicyNational SecurityAI ChipsF-35Rule 11Oral HistoryCorruptionJustice System
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