Sh*t Talkers Weekly 12: 50K as Ultra, Training for Cocodona, and Charity in Running

Defining Ultramarathons and 50Ks

• 🎯 James sparked controversy by stating that a 50K is not an ultramarathon, while Cam believes it counts.
• 💡 The hosts emphasize that personal achievement should be the focus, not the label of an ultramarathoner.
• 🚀 They humorously suggest calling 50Ks "extra marathons" or "marathon plus" to acknowledge the effort.

Training, Risk, and the "Not a Runner" Debate

• ⚠️ The discussion addresses the safety and feasibility of rapid progression in ultra-endurance events, using the "Couch to Cocodona" example.
• 🧠 The hosts argue that transitioning from being a non-runner to attempting extreme races like Cocodona in a short period is a significant risk, even for experienced athletes.
• 🗣️ They clarify that calling someone "not a runner" refers to their prior experience, not their body type or potential.
• 🤝 The intention is to offer advice based on experience to help others succeed and stay safe in endurance sports.

The Nature of Online Criticism and Delusional Goals

• 💬 Putting oneself out there on social media invites both praise and criticism, and individuals must be prepared to handle both.
• 🌟 The hosts share personal stories of pursuing ambitious, seemingly unrealistic goals, highlighting that delusion can sometimes be a necessary catalyst for achievement.
• 🏆 They emphasize that success often requires years of sacrifice, hard work, and overcoming doubt from oneself and others.

Charity, Records, and Performance Standards

• 💔 The conversation critiques attempts at breaking endurance records that quickly pivot to charity, questioning the legitimacy of the effort and its impact on donors.
• 🏅 Performances like Phil Gore's at Big's Backyard Ultra and Jasmine Paris finishing the Barkley Marathons are celebrated as exceptional feats of human endurance.
• 🗣️ The hosts discuss how criticism, even harsh words, can be a motivator, but dismissive or hateful comments are unproductive.

Public Lands, Politics, and Personal Conviction

• 🏞️ The hosts express frustration with political discourse and the complexities of advocating for public lands, sharing personal experiences of facing criticism despite taking action.
• 💰 They stress the importance of putting one's money where their mouth is, highlighting their own contributions to conservation efforts.
• 🧭 Ultimately, they advise individuals to follow their hearts and do what they believe is right, regardless of external judgment, as it's impossible to please everyone.