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Mike Wilson on Tariffs, Market Reaction, and Dollar Trends

Bloomberg PodcastsJuly 11, 20256 min2,823 views
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Market Reaction to Tariffs

  • πŸ’‘ Mike Wilson describes President Trump's negotiating style as a pattern of going hard and then engaging in back-and-forth, a classic BATNA strategy.
  • 🎯 The market has learned this pattern, leading to a dynamic of one step back, two steps forward, where negative reactions are often followed by gains.
  • ⚠️ Wilson suggests this approach won't work indefinitely, as deals are eventually needed, but it's currently effective in exerting pressure.

Potential Catalysts for Market Shifts

  • πŸ“ˆ A point of exhaustion for the market is anticipated around the third quarter, potentially driven by the impact of tariffs.
  • πŸ“Œ Tariffs have not yet significantly affected company margins or demand, partly due to companies selling older inventory.
  • ⚠️ This could change in the third quarter, potentially leading to hits to margins or a spike in inflation, which would concern the Fed and the market.

Company Guidance and Financial Impacts

  • ⚠️ Consumer companies with less pricing power and excess inventory may face challenges in their third-quarter guidance, with negative comments expected in late July or early August.
  • 🏦 Financials are largely unaffected by tariffs, and larger companies may have strategies to mitigate impacts.
  • πŸ“‰ A weaker dollar and lower oil prices are seen as offsets for multinationals and consumers, respectively.

Dollar Trends and Fed Policy

  • ➑️ Wilson maintains a weaker dollar view over the next 12 months, primarily due to expected Federal Reserve rate cuts.
  • ⚠️ A near-term risk is a counter-trend dollar rally, which could negatively impact equities in the third quarter.
  • πŸ“Š The currency market may have already priced in tariff concerns, as the dollar has not strengthened significantly despite the Fed being on hold while other central banks cut rates.

US Equity Leadership

  • βœ… Wilson expects continued US leadership in stocks compared to the rest of the world, based on a positive reversal in key indicators since April.
  • 🌍 While foreign stocks may perform, he does not anticipate a multi-year run of foreign equities outperforming the US.
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