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Market Outlook: Small Caps, Rate Cuts, and Fed Policy with Kevin Gordon, Keith Lerner, and Dan Greenhaus

CNBC TelevisionAugust 25, 20256 min9,334 views
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Small Cap Market Performance

  • 🎯 Small caps have significantly underperformed large caps, with a 10% underperformance over the last year and 40% over three years, reaching extreme divergences not seen since around 2000.
  • 💡 Despite underperformance, forward earnings estimates for the small-cap sector, including tech, communications, financials, and industrials, have begun to increase.
  • 📈 Technical indicators for small caps are improving, with the index in an uptrend and showing a breakout, alongside improving relative trends.
  • 📉 Extreme outflows have been observed in the S&P 600 small-cap ETF on a three-month basis, reaching the highest levels in a decade.

Small Cap Investment Strategy

  • 🧩 A fundamental or characteristic-based approach to indices like the Russell 2000 can reveal pockets of outperformance, despite the index's size and inclusion of companies with no earnings and high debt.
  • ⚠️ Small caps tend to perform poorly when the Fed funds rate is above 4% and the 10-year Treasury yield is above 4%.

Federal Reserve Policy and Rate Cuts

  • 🧐 The decision on future Fed rate cuts hinges on upcoming data, including the jobs report and CPI/PPI, which will be crucial determinants for policy momentum.
  • 🗓️ A single rate cut in September might not signal a sustained shift to easing, and the Fed may not want to cut and then stop.
  • 📊 Historically, when the Fed re-engages in a cutting cycle after more than six months, the S&P 500 has shown positive average returns in the following 12 months, though with a wide range.
  • ⚠️ The market's reaction to potential Fed Chair dismissal news indicates volatility, with a short-term negative impact on stocks, dollar, and yields.

Market Reaction to Fed Policy

  • 🚫 The market does not want a confrontation between the President and the Federal Reserve, but potential replacements for Jay Powell are generally seen as qualified and acceptable to the market.
  • 📈 The macro conditions surrounding rate cuts are more important than the cut itself for determining bullish outcomes for the market.
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