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Kevin Hassett on Tariffs, Inflation, and the US Economy

Bloomberg PodcastsNovember 19, 202547 min5,676 views
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Tariffs and Inflation Dynamics

  • 🎯 Hassett explains that tariffs were strategically applied to minimize harm, considering relative elasticities and the goal of creating jobs in partner countries.
  • πŸ’‘ The US has a persistent trade deficit due to trading partners creating jobs by dumping products, which tariffs aim to address.
  • πŸ“ˆ Tariffs on countries like China have led to price adjustments by exporters rather than significant visible inflation in the US, contrary to some expectations.
  • πŸ“Š Current tariff schedules show Brazil and India at higher rates than China, with the administration's end game for trade policy still being determined by President Trump.

Economic Policy and Growth

  • πŸ’° The discussion touches on the potential convergence towards a border-adjusted business cash flow tax, combining export subsidies, tariffs, and payroll taxes.
  • πŸš€ Hassett highlights that this policy mix has generated significant revenue and is not causing substantial harm, with GDP at 4% and inflation trending down.
  • πŸ“ˆ A surprising outcome has been a massive onshoring of activity, leading to a capital spending boom, which Hassett views as a net positive policy.
  • πŸ“‰ While some Wall Street analyses predicted stagflation due to tariffs, Hassett points to high growth and stable inflation as evidence against these models.

Productivity and AI's Impact

  • 🧠 The conversation draws parallels to the 1990s productivity boom, emphasizing the difficulty in identifying such shifts early on, as exemplified by Alan Greenspan's insights.
  • πŸ’‘ A key anecdote involves the mismeasurement of communications equipment prices, which, when corrected with a computer deflator, significantly boosted GDP figures, highlighting measurement challenges.
  • πŸ€– Hassett suggests that AI could be a revolutionary force for productivity, similar to the computer age, but acknowledges the debate on whether current improvements are cyclical or sustained.
  • πŸ“‰ The role of AI and automation in potentially lowering hiring rates for new graduates is discussed, posing a puzzle of high GDP growth alongside labor market concerns.

Federal Reserve Independence and Policy

  • ⚠️ Hassett expresses concern that inflation expectations are not fully anchored, citing the loss of control over inflation in recent memory and the potential for it to rise again with fiscally irresponsible policies.
  • πŸ—£οΈ He advocates for a data-driven approach at the Fed and emphasizes the importance of Fed independence, citing an anecdote where Chairman Greenspan refused to publish a paper on a BTU tax to avoid political interference.
  • πŸ“Š Transparency at the Fed is discussed, with a suggestion to invest more in macroeconomic forecasting models and to provide clearer communication on policy decisions and their underlying assumptions.
  • βœ… Hassett, if confirmed as Fed chair, commits to preserving the independence of the Federal Reserve, emphasizing that candidates understand its crucial importance.
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