Jim Zelter on Private Credit Opportunities in Investment Grade Assets
Bloomberg PodcastsJune 4, 20258 min2,531 views
22 connectionsΒ·27 entities in this videoβThe Shifting Landscape of Private Capital
- π The SuperReturn conference in Berlin highlights a significant shift from a purely private equity focus to a broader gathering of players across credit, capital, and equity markets.
- π‘ Jim Zelter, President of Apollo Global Management, notes a revitalized enthusiasm for investing in Europe, with a substantial portion of Apollo's assets ($100 billion out of $800 billion) already based there.
- π€ US investors are showing palpable interest in European markets, driven by both domestic pull and global competitiveness needs of European industry leaders.
Private Credit: Beyond Risk and Illiquidity
- π― Apollo Global Management has carved a niche in striking complex private deals with investment grade businesses, challenging the convention that private credit is inherently risky and illiquid.
- π The firm has seen significant transactions in Europe, including deals with Intel, Vonovia, and Air France, focusing on high-grade capital solutions.
- π° While acknowledging concerns in the non-investment grade market (levered capital structures, subordinated paper), Apollo has strategically avoided these financings.
Navigating Market Concerns and Opportunities
- β οΈ Zelter identifies potential red flags in specific sectors, such as over-enthusiasm in parts of health care (medical reimbursement) and the enterprise software business due to rapid technological innovation and AI.
- πΊπΈ The US deficit has become a more prominent concern than tariffs, with market forces (bond vigilantes) waking up to the issue, overshadowing other headlines.
- π Despite macro concerns, Zelter sees it as a wonderful time to be a player in credit as lenders are being paid for risk for the first time in 15 years, with real rates at 4% plus.
Investment Grade as the Primary Opportunity
- π Private credit is described as a much broader ocean of opportunities, with Apollo focusing on the investment grade side, which constitutes three-quarters of their assets.
- π¦ This focus on investment grade assets, mostly at the top of the capital structure, offers a different setup with stronger underlying credit metrics compared to the non-investment grade market.
- β Apollo is leaning heavily into the investment grade segment of private capital, emphasizing its historical convention-defying approach to private markets being both safe and liquid.
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