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Jeffrey Goldberg on the Political-Violence Crisis with Anne Applebaum, Adam Serwer, and George Packer

The AtlanticSeptember 19, 202535 min49,297 views
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Defining the Political-Violence Crisis

  • 💡 The current political-violence crisis is distinct due to a media system, particularly social media, that rewards extreme statements financially, defeating the instinct for moderation and consensus.
  • ⚠️ This creates an environment where ordinary people feel afraid to express their opinions and fear for their safety.
  • 🎭 A significant aspect of the problem is the performative nature of online politics, which can spill over into real-world actions, though the depth of the country's desire for perpetual violence is questioned.

Interconnected Drivers of Escalation

  • 📱 Social media is identified as a primary driver, creating a 'hellscape' that amplifies polarization.
  • ⚖️ Profound polarization is exacerbated by financial incentives on platforms, turning minor incidents into major political events.
  • 🏛️ The rise of authoritarianism is characterized by an inability to tolerate criticism or mockery, contributing to a dangerous atmosphere.

Historical Context and Current Dangers

  • ⚠️ While historical periods like the Civil War were numerically more violent, the current situation is marked by a media system that encourages extremism.
  • 🗣️ A key danger is the government's incentive structure, where politicians are incentivized to make extreme statements to gain audience reaction, a behavior seen in figures like Ted Cruz and Donald Trump.
  • 🚫 The consensus against political violence is strong, yet the escalation of rhetoric by those in power, labeling opponents as 'terrorists,' is a dangerous development.
  • ⚖️ Trumpism is described as a program of political violence against perceived undesirables, translating into state-sanctioned actions.

The Nature of Modern Violence and Its Roots

  • 🎯 The debate over left-wing vs. right-wing violence is less productive than understanding the nihilistic, self-radicalizing violence fueled by social media.
  • 🧠 The long-term effects of algorithms that progressively show more extreme content are unknown but concerning, potentially leading to irresolvable conflicts similar to existential culture wars.
  • 🏛️ The politicization of independent institutions (civil service, courts, media) by those seeking to control culture is a threat to liberal democracy.

Potential Solutions and Pathways Forward

  • 🗳️ A crucial element for change is the establishment of a political cost for engaging in divisive and demonizing rhetoric, enforced through the ballot box.
  • 🤝 Rebuilding affection and the habit of self-government among Americans is essential, likely stemming from the revulsion of ordinary people against manipulation by elites and tech barons.
  • 🌐 Technical solutions like social media transparency and regulation are proposed, focusing on giving users more control over algorithms without resorting to censorship.
  • 🏘️ Grassroots movements, similar to those advocating for smoke-free environments or limiting phone use in schools, could foster healthier political engagement and active participation in local communities.
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