Howard Marks on Oaktree Capital, Investment Philosophy, and Market Cycles
[HPP] Howard MarksJuly 13, 202538 min
37 connectionsΒ·40 entities in this videoβFounding Oaktree Capital
- π Howard Marks co-founded Oaktree Capital Management in 1995 with partners from TCW, bringing 95% of their original team.
- π The firm quickly grew, raising $5 billion by the end of 1995 and $10 billion by 1997, largely due to their strong reputation and client goodwill.
- π‘ They started without a formal business plan, driven by a desire to continue working together under their established investment philosophy and business principles.
Core Philosophy and Principles
- π Oaktree's investment philosophy is based on six unchanging tenets, including risk control, consistency, and focusing on less efficient markets.
- β Beyond investing, they established business principles emphasizing avoiding conflicts of interest, fostering a non-hierarchical environment, and candid communication.
- π― Marks believes in a "long-term greedy" approach, prioritizing sustained economic value over short-term profits, even if it means sacrificing immediate gains.
Navigating Market Extremes
- β οΈ During the 2009-2021 period, characterized by a near-zero Fed funds rate, Oaktree experienced a "low return world" but adhered to risk control, refusing to take excessive risks.
- π₯ A career highlight was anticipating the 2008 Global Financial Crisis; Oaktree sold off assets and raised a $11 billion distressed debt standby fund by 2008.
- π° With $10 billion unspent when Lehman Brothers collapsed, Oaktree aggressively invested, with Bruce Karsh deploying $450 million per week for 15 weeks.
The Power of Contrarianism
- π§ Marks emphasizes that contrarian investing involves understanding current market behavior and often doing the opposite of the crowd, especially at market extremes.
- π‘οΈ This approach requires a "thick skin" as being "too far ahead of your time is indistinguishable from being wrong" and can lead to looking incorrect in the short term.
- π‘ Superior investors must adopt "uncomfortably idiosyncratic positions" rather than following the herd, as stated by Dave Swenson.
Lessons from Financial History
- π Studying financial history is crucial because "history does not repeat, but it does rhyme," revealing recurring themes in market cycles and bubbles.
- π Common patterns include a lack of risk aversion, excessive leveraging, and the "fear of missing out" (FOMO), which often lead to magnified failures.
- π Marks recommends books like "Devil Take the Hindmost" by Edward Chancellor and "A Short History of Financial Euphoria" by John Kenneth Galbraith to understand these tendencies.
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