Gil Luria on Big Tech's AI Returns vs. Incremental Players' Risks
CNBC TelevisionSeptember 23, 20254 min3,349 views
30 connectionsΒ·21 entities in this videoβBig Tech's AI Advantage
- π Microsoft, Amazon, and Google are identified as major players with significant advantages in the AI space.
- π‘ These companies benefit from a cost of capital around 5% and achieve returns of approximately 20%, indicating strong financial health and customer base.
- π They possess a substantial customer base and low borrowing costs, allowing them to generate significant value.
Incremental Players' Financial Strain
- β οΈ Companies like Oracle and Coreweave face a different reality, needing to borrow at higher rates, potentially 10-12%.
- π These players are only achieving mid-single-digit returns, which is described as value-destructive, akin to buying treasuries on margin.
- π The market's valuation of these incremental players at higher multiples than established tech giants is questioned, especially when their economic fundamentals are weaker.
Oracle's Valuation Concerns
- π― The discussion highlights that OpenAI has been the primary driver of Oracle's recent backlog increases over several quarters.
- β οΈ A significant risk is identified with OpenAI, which is projected to lose over $10 billion this year and may not be able to meet its financial obligations.
- π§ The commitment of substantial compute power to OpenAI, including Microsoft's right of first refusal on compute and further commitments to CoreWeave, raises questions about the sustainability of Oracle's valuation based on this relationship.
- π Adding $400 billion in market cap to Oracle based on this risky partnership is presented as a situation that warrants a re-evaluation of the underlying math.
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