Ghislaine Maxwell Transcript: Trump Interactions, Epstein's List, and Business Dealings

Maxwell's Observations of Donald Trump

• 🤝 Maxwell stated her relationship with Donald Trump was limited, believing she met him in the '90s through her father, who liked Trump.
• 👍 She described Trump as cordial and kind to her, admiring his achievement in becoming president and stating she has always liked him.
• 🚫 Maxwell explicitly denied ever witnessing Trump receiving a massage or being in any inappropriate setting.
• 🧐 She characterized Trump as a gentleman in all respects during the times she was with him.

Epstein's Business and Relationships

• ❓ Maxwell admitted to seeing Trump and Epstein together, believing they were friendly in social settings, but couldn't recall private meetings.
• 🚫 She never witnessed Trump in any inappropriate situations with Epstein or others.
• 🗓️ The last time Maxwell believes she saw Trump in person was in the early to mid-2000s, likely in a social setting.

Denials Regarding Epstein's Client List

• ❌ Maxwell unequivocally stated that there is no list or client book maintained by Epstein.
• 🗣️ She claims she can trace the origin of the "list" story from its inception, suggesting it's a narrative that grew out of proportion.
• ⚖️ Maxwell acknowledged that while Epstein did terrible things to young people, she is not discussing his actions with those over 18.

Maxwell's View on Epstein's Business Acumen

• 🧠 Maxwell believes Epstein was a businessman and does not agree with the notion that everything he did was a fraud.
• 🧐 While acknowledging allegations of blackmail and fraud, she stated, "If there was fraud, I never saw it."
• 💼 She ran his office, including staff, lawyers, and accountants, and never felt or heard anything to suggest fraud during her tenure.