Electric Motorcycle Torque: Are the Figures Real or Marketing BS?
RevZillaSeptember 27, 20254 min66,958 views
7 connectionsΒ·8 entities in this videoβUnderstanding Electric Motorcycle Torque
- π‘ Electric motorcycles often claim significantly higher torque figures than gasoline bikes, like a Zero SR/F claiming 140 lb-ft compared to a Yamaha M07's 48 lb-ft.
- β οΈ Despite these high numbers, the off-the-line acceleration of the Zero SR/F is not dramatically faster than the M07, leading to questions about the validity of the torque figures.
The Role of Transmissions
- βοΈ The primary reason for this discrepancy lies in the presence of transmissions in gasoline bikes versus the typical direct-drive or single-reduction setup in electric motorcycles.
- π Gasoline bikes use a primary reduction, a multi-speed transmission, and a final drive to multiply engine torque significantly (potentially 14-15x in first gear) by the time it reaches the rear tire.
- β‘ Electric motorcycles, with their simpler reduction, only multiply motor torque by a smaller factor (around 4-5x).
Assessing Motorcycle Performance
- π While peak torque is often cited, thrust at the rear tire is a more useful metric for acceleration, though still a snapshot.
- π An attractive force graph, charting thrust against ground speed, provides a more complete picture of a bike's performance across different speeds.
- π The Zero SR/F, despite lower initial thrust compared to the M07, offers significantly more thrust from 45 mph onwards and maintains uninterrupted acceleration due to its lack of gears.
Real-World Performance Metrics
- π The electric motorcycle torque figures are real, but difficult to interpret due to our ingrained understanding of transmission-equipped bikes.
- π For a true comparison of real-world performance, rely on metrics like 0-60 mph times, 1/4 mile times, and top gear roll-on times rather than just raw horsepower and torque specs.
- π A primer on horsepower and torque fundamentals is available via a QR code to an article on Common Tread.
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