David Feldman on ICE, 'War with Venezuela,' and Patriotism

Feldman's Initial Grievance

• 💡 David Feldman initially expressed anger towards ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement), but not for the reasons one might expect.
• 🎯 The conversation took an unexpected turn, with Feldman focusing on the perceived need to support ICE agents.

The 'War with Venezuela' Narrative

• 🚀 Feldman insisted that the U.S. is engaged in a "war with Venezuela" and that ICE agents are "soldiers" on the front lines.
• ⚠️ He argued that even if the war is based on a lie or a mistake, it must be continued to avoid dishonoring troops.
• 🗣️ This narrative was met with strong disagreement from Sam Seder, who pointed out the lack of any actual war or declaration of war.

Misidentification and Deportation

• 📌 The discussion touched upon the deportation of individuals, including U.S. citizens and children, by ICE.
• 🔍 A specific case involved Kilar Amando Abrego Garcia, who was mistakenly deported to El Salvador, despite not being Venezuelan and having protected legal status.
• 🧩 Feldman's argument that Garcia was MS-13, based on photoshopped images, was debunked.

The Trauma of ICE Agents and Their Families

• 😥 Feldman claimed that ICE agents and their children are traumatized due to public criticism and perceived disrespect.
• 🎭 He suggested that ICE agents are hiding their identities and not wearing uniforms out of shame, a claim Seder disputed.
• 💔 Feldman drew a parallel to his father's experience after serving in Vietnam, expressing a desire to protect ICE agents and their families from similar public backlash.

Disagreement on Terminology and Identity

• 🚫 Seder repeatedly clarified that ICE agents are law enforcement, not soldiers, and that there is no war with Venezuela.
• 🧐 Feldman insisted on calling ICE agents "soldiers" and framed Seder's corrections as an attack on "troops" and an attempt to make people feel stupid.
• 🤷 The conversation ended with a stark disagreement on the nature of the conflict, the role of ICE, and the definition of patriotism.