Dave Smith Declares Israel Not an Ally, Conservatives Cheer at Turning Point USA
The Jimmy Dore ShowJuly 15, 202511 min332,272 views
23 connectionsΒ·23 entities in this videoβShifting Conservative Views on Israel
- π― Dave Smith received significant applause from a conservative Turning Point USA audience for stating that Israel is not an ally of the United States.
- π‘ This sentiment challenges traditional pro-Israel stances often promoted by figures like Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk, indicating a shift among younger conservatives.
- π£οΈ The audience's enthusiastic reaction suggests that messages from commentators like Tucker Carlson, advocating for U.S. control over its relationship with Israel, are resonating.
Zionism as a Censorious Ideology
- π The discussion posits that Zionism has evolved into an authoritarian ideology, adopting tactics previously criticized by conservatives, such as censorship and the pursuit of "thought crimes."
- π« Critics argue that Zionists now employ "woke" tactics, demanding safe spaces and labeling any criticism of Israel or Zionism as anti-semitic, mirroring the very behaviors they once opposed.
- π§ The argument is made that this shift has led to a new form of conservatism, where Zionists have become the embodiment of the ideologies they used to critique.
Fractured Bipartisan Support for Israel
- π The events of October 7th and Israel's subsequent response are seen as a turning point that has permanently altered public perception and fractured bipartisan support for Israel in the U.S.
- π₯ It is suggested that the narrative surrounding Israel has been broken, and no amount of PR or gaslighting can repair it, leading to increasing criticism from both the right and potentially others.
- π The Abraham Accords are mentioned as a point where, had they gone through, Palestinians might have been further marginalized; the current situation, however, has brought global attention.
Strategic Calculations and Overreactions
- π Some theories suggest that the October 7th attacks were a calculated move to expose Israel's true nature to the world, knowing that an overreaction would occur.
- β οΈ The calculus for both Hamas and Israeli leadership, including Netanyahu, is discussed, with the idea that they anticipated an overreaction and potentially a "9/11 going" scenario.
- π§ The new generation is seen as less susceptible to traditional guilt-based programming regarding Israel, indicating a potential decline in unquestioning support for Zionism.
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