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Dan Ives: The 'Scariest Time' for US Tech Amidst Tariffs and Antitrust

Bloomberg PodcastsApril 9, 20256 min53,186 views
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The Current Tech Climate

  • πŸ’‘ Dan Ives describes the current situation for U.S. tech as the scariest time he's seen in his 25-year career, likening it to an 'Armageddon' from a supply chain perspective.
  • ⚠️ He warns that ongoing tariffs could set the U.S. tech industry back by a decade.

Impact on Capital Expenditures

  • πŸ“‰ CapEx and new projects are being halted or cut across the board, leading to a significant decline in investment.
  • πŸ“Œ Companies are moving from a 'pause' on spending to a 'termination' phase, with 3-6 month delays becoming common due to business uncertainties.
  • πŸ’° Cybersecurity spending, for example, is being halved from $100,000 to $50,000 due to unclear CapEx budgets.

Earnings Season and Stock Outlook

  • πŸ“Š Executives are expected to provide little to no guidance during earnings season due to the unpredictable environment.
  • πŸ“ˆ Ives' firm is baking in 10-12% cuts to tech stock numbers, with potential for further 5-10% cuts, leading to baked-in 20% reductions.
  • πŸš€ Despite the challenges, his firm remains bullish on certain stocks like Nvidia, Apple, and Microsoft, seeing current bounces as the street getting ahead of the actual numbers.

Apple's Vulnerability

  • 🍎 Apple is identified as the most sustainably impacted company due to 93% of iPhones being manufactured in China, with no immediate alternative manufacturing base.
  • ⚠️ The current tariffs are seen as an 'Armageddon' move that needs to be stopped and negotiated to prevent permanent damage to companies like Apple.

Navigating the Chaos

  • ⏳ Ives suggests that the current environment is transitory, similar to past financial crises, and that investors should look past the next three quarters.
  • 🎯 The strategy is to wait for the chaos to subside and for a normalized baseline to emerge, focusing on 2026 numbers to justify valuations.
  • 🀝 A negotiated resolution is anticipated, which is why his firm has not downgraded all stocks despite the severe headwinds.
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