Claudia Sahm on Jobs Data, Recession Risks, and Economic Policy
Bloomberg PodcastsMay 2, 20257 min296 views
12 connectionsΒ·18 entities in this videoβEconomic Outlook and Recession Fears
- π‘ Claudia Sahm, Chief Economist at New Century Advisors, expresses concern about the current economic trajectory, noting that while she doesn't see an immediate recession, the economy has "all the ingredients" for one.
- β οΈ She highlights tariffs, slow immigration, federal cuts, and massive uncertainty as key factors pointing towards a potential recession.
- π― Businesses are attempting to build buffers, like increasing inventories, and individuals are trying to adjust, but aggressive policies and cost shocks need to be dialed back quickly to avoid spreading damage.
Impact of Tariffs and Inflation
- π Sahm discusses the first quarter GDP decline, attributing it to a major cost shock from increased tariffs rather than a sign of recession.
- π She believes a 4% year-over-year CPI is a possibility, noting the challenge of facing slowing growth, rising unemployment, and faster inflation simultaneously.
- β A key question for the Fed is the duration of inflation, whether it's a blip or a more persistent issue, especially as businesses and consumers adjust to tariffs.
Economic Models vs. Real-World Discontinuities
- π§ Sahm acknowledges that macroeconomic models may not capture the discontinuities and sharp turns seen in real-world data, such as those observed at ports.
- π’ She points to the surge in imports and potential snapback as an example of how GDP figures can mask underlying problems.
- π Responding to these discontinuities, especially when tied to specific events like trade policies, is crucial for accurate economic judgment.
Counsel on Economic Policy
- π£οΈ Sahm advises policymakers to slow down aggressive and fast-paced policies, particularly regarding tariffs, to avoid causing maximal damage.
- π While acknowledging the spirit of industrial policy or higher tariffs, she stresses the need for a method that doesn't inflict severe harm.
- β She urges for action to pull back costs before it's too late, noting that current tariff rates may not be sustainable.
Labor Market and Wage Growth
- π Despite recessionary concerns, wage growth remains solid on an annualized basis, reported at 3.8% year-over-year.
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