Bryce Zabel on UFOs, Hollywood, and the Fight for Disclosure

Bryce Zabel's Career Path

• 💡 Bryce Zabel began his career in journalism, working as a broadcast journalist and eventually becoming one of the youngest correspondents at CNN.
• 🚀 He transitioned to screenwriting after his wife suggested it, leading to the creation of the TV series "Dark Skies" and a 25-year career in Hollywood.
• 🎬 Zabel has a particular interest in science fiction and UFO-related projects, though he is also working on a World War II film.

Changes at "Need to Know"

• 🤝 Zabel discusses the transition of the "Need to Know" podcast from co-hosting with Ross Coulthart to Richard Dolan.
• ⏱️ He explains that the significant time difference between himself and Coulthart made maintaining a consistent schedule difficult.
• 🗣️ Zabel respects both Coulthart and Dolan, noting that while Coulthart was a "hard-charging journalist," Dolan shares his focus on the deeper implications of the UFO phenomenon.
• 💬 He acknowledges disagreements with Coulthart on specific issues, such as the "Tic Tac" incident, but emphasizes their friendship remains intact.

UFO Hearings and "Age of Disclosure"

• 🏛️ Zabel found the recent UFO hearings compelling but felt they were more theatrical than investigative, wishing for a more in-depth, Watergate-style approach.
• 🎬 Regarding the "Age of Disclosure" documentary, he expresses frustration over its delayed release, suggesting distribution or contractual issues rather than government interference are likely causes.
• 🍿 He speculates that a truly shocking piece of evidence, like a clear video of an object being hit by a missile, would be necessary to capture the public's attention in a struggling cinema market.

JFK, Ufology, and Research

• 📚 Zabel's book "Surrounded by Enemies: What If Kennedy Survived Dallas" explored a hypothetical scenario, but he did not delve deeply into UFO connections at the time.
• 👽 He notes that while his TV series "Dark Skies" combined JFK and UFOs, he hasn't seen uncontested documents proving JFK's direct interest in UFOs, beyond potential concerns about nuclear war.
• 🔍 He highlights the importance of dedicated researchers like Stanton Friedman who meticulously sift through archives to uncover details, a task he admits he hasn't fully undertaken for the JFK documents.

The Future of Disclosure and Humanity

• 🌌 Zabel believes the revelation that humanity is not alone could be a unifying force, a "Hail Mary" for a divided world.
• 📺 He is working on a TV series called "Undeniable" that explores how society would react over seven days to the confirmed knowledge of extraterrestrial intelligence.
• 🤔 His hypothesis remains that the phenomenon is extraterrestrial, but he acknowledges it could be a combination of factors, and he hopes for a future where humanity focuses on the implications rather than just proving the existence of UFOs.
• ❓ When asked what single question humanity should ask extraterrestrial intelligence, Zabel suggests, "Why are you here?" as it would reveal the most about their intentions and origins.
• 🧠 Regarding abduction phenomena, Zabel is open to the possibility of psychological programming, referencing the Betty and Barney Hill case and its potential connection to MK Ultra.