Brian Cox & James Graham on 'Make It Happen', Theatre, and Scottish Independence

'Make It Happen': A Play on the 2008 Financial Crisis

• 🎭 James Graham and Brian Cox discuss their new play, "Make It Happen," which re-imagines the 2008 financial crisis through a Scottish lens.
• 💡 The play focuses on the fall of RBS, Scotland's largest bank, and the role of figures like Fred Goodwin.
• 🧠 Brian Cox portrays the ghost of Adam Smith, exploring the complexities of capitalism and its Scottish origins.
• 🎶 The production incorporates music, including a Kylie Minogue song, and features a Greek chorus to enhance its theatricality.
• 🎭 The play aims to provide a nuanced, empathetic portrayal of complex characters, moving beyond a simplistic "pantomime villain" narrative.

The Scottish Perspective and Independence

• 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Brian Cox expresses pride in Scottish talent and contributions, noting that Scotland is often treated as a "second-class citizen" within the UK.
• 🏛️ He advocates for independence but within a federal society where all parts of the UK can collaborate.
• 📈 Cox reflects on the evolution of the Scottish National Party (SNP), moving from a niche movement to a more left-leaning political force.
• 🗣️ He discusses the impact of figures like Alex Salmond and Nicola Sturgeon on the party and the independence movement.

Navigating the Creative Industries

• 🎤 Cox and Graham offer advice to aspiring actors and creatives, emphasizing persistence and the ability to overcome rejection.
• 💡 Graham advises staying true to one's passions and not chasing trends, highlighting the importance of developing a unique voice.
• 🎟️ Both discuss the rising ticket prices in theatre and festivals, with Graham advocating for government intervention to ensure accessibility.
• 🎬 They also touch upon the changing landscape of media, with television and theatre gaining prestige, while independent cinema faces challenges.

Personal Reflections and Future Projects

• ✈️ Brian Cox discusses his return to Scotland and his decision to step back from touring due to fatigue, focusing instead on directing and acting projects.
• 🎬 He shares details about his directorial debut film, "Glen Rothan," a story about brotherly love and a family distillery.
• ✍️ James Graham is working on a third series of "Sherwood," a West End play transferring to Broadway, and a historical political film musical.
• 🎤 The episode concludes with reflections on the importance of live theatre and its unique ability to resonate with audiences.