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Apollo's Jim Zelter on Retail, Tariffs, and the Global Economic Pivot

Bloomberg PodcastsMay 15, 202515 min201 views
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The Retail Sector and Trade Policy

  • 🎯 The retail sector has emerged as a significant power broker, influencing policy through meetings with the US President.
  • ⚠️ Walmart CFO warned of potential price hikes due to tariffs, highlighting ongoing pressures despite some rate reductions.
  • πŸ’‘ A meeting between retailers and the administration is seen as a critical moment that led to a weekend truce and averted threats of empty shelves.

A Macro Political Pivot

  • πŸ”„ Jim Zelter describes the current environment not as "macro paralysis" but as a "macro political pivot," indicating a shift in administration strategy.
  • 🀝 The administration has pivoted from its initial trade plans, actively seeking and inking deals globally, which generate positive headlines.
  • πŸ“Š A significant gap exists between confidence/sentiment (still negative) and results (which have been strong), creating an unusual economic landscape.

Market Activity and Recovery Outlook

  • πŸš€ Apollo Global Management has been active, opening the IPO market and executing multi-billion dollar deals, indicating robust capital markets activity despite negative headlines.
  • πŸ“ˆ The consumer is showing signs of a V-shaped recovery, corporations a U-shaped recovery, and the global response is more akin to an L-shaped recovery.
  • 🌎 There's a trend towards global industrial renaissance and reshoring, with companies being encouraged to "come to America."

Private Credit and Market Dynamics

  • 🏦 Longer-dated capital, particularly from insurance assets, played a crucial role as a buffer during market volatility, actively deploying capital.
  • ⚠️ While not a bubble, a credit cycle is considered normal and inevitable, impacting various debt and equity markets.
  • πŸ’‘ Private credit offers attractive returns (high single to low double digits) and is a robust asset class, not a bubble, despite potential cyclical impacts.
  • πŸ“ˆ Higher long-term US yields are generally good for investors but can become a risk if they erode confidence in the underlying market.

Opportunities in Volatility

  • πŸ’° Apollo sees opportunities in refinancing PE-owned companies, the global industrial renaissance, and financing chip manufacturing.
  • 🌍 Europe and Japan are also highlighted as interesting markets for insurance, wealth, and private equity.
  • πŸ› οΈ Despite market volatility and paralysis for some, Apollo remains active, refinancing PE firms and engaging in significant transactions.
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