Andrew Schulz & Joe Rogan's Trump Disillusionment Discussed by Tim Miller & David Pakman

Andrew Schulz & Trump Disillusionment

• 💡 David Pakman and Tim Miller discuss Andrew Schulz's recent criticism of Donald Trump, particularly regarding the Epstein scandal.
• 💬 Schulz, Joe Rogan, and others are reportedly backtracking on their support for Trump, expressing disillusionment with his actions in office.
• 📌 Schulz specifically stated he "didn't want this Donald Trump in office," criticizing him for starting wars and helping the rich.

Fragmentation of the Trump Coalition

• 🧠 Tim Miller suggests the Epstein revelations could lead to a fragmenting of the broader Republican/Trump coalition.
• 🎯 He identifies groups like the "lefty horseshoe people" (RFK, Tulsi supporters) and "manosphere type people" as particularly susceptible to disillusionment.
• ⚠️ These groups are disappointed by Trump's failure on foreign policy and the perception that he's covering up the Epstein situation, making him seem like "everybody else" (a politician).

Trump's Crisis Management

• 📈 The discussion touches on how Trump's PR team handles crises, noting that Trump himself often dictates the strategy.
• 🧩 This leads to contradictory public statements, such as claiming Epstein files don't exist while also asserting his name is in them due to others.
• ⚡ Tim Miller contrasts this with his own experience, where his candidates didn't randomly post "crazy" things, making Trump's situation unique.

The Bulwark's Success

• 🚀 Tim Miller attributes The Bulwark's growth to its original core group of "Never Trumpers" who were cast out of the Republican party.
• ✅ Their success stemmed from a decision to "just say what we really think" and be honest and candid, as they had no realistic hope of returning to the party or joining Democrats.