2013 Grand Caravan Won't Crank: Diagnosing a Failed TIPM
South Main Auto LLCJuly 24, 202532 min203,615 views
27 connectionsΒ·40 entities in this videoβInitial Symptoms and Diagnosis
- π A 2013 Dodge Grand Caravan presents with a no-crank issue after being driven in.
- π‘ The customer reported the vehicle would not restart after shutting it off, despite a previous shop replacing the starter.
- π Initial checks revealed the starter motor itself works when jumped, but the vehicle does not crank with the key.
Scan Tool Findings and Initial Theories
- π A scan tool revealed only one stored code: B212D-13, related to the ignition run only input circuit open, possibly from the airbag module.
- π§ The technician suspected the TIPM (Theft Integrated Power Module) or ECM (Engine Control Module) as potential culprits, as they both play a role in the cranking process.
- βοΈ Data from the ECM indicated the ignition start switch signal was received, and a relay clicked under the hood, suggesting a temporary latching mechanism.
Investigating the TIPM and Fuses
- π The technician focused on fuses M16 and M32, which power the occupant restraint controller, as indicated by the wiring diagram.
- β οΈ Fuse M32, the run relay, showed intermittent power loss during the cranking cycle, indicating a potential issue within the TIPM.
- π‘ A jumper wire was used to bypass the relay, and the engine successfully started and ran, confirming the starter circuit and engine are functional.
The "Russian Relay" Repair
- π οΈ Due to the suspected TIPM failure, a temporary repair, dubbed the "Russian relay," was performed.
- β‘ This involved soldering a wire to the missing power side of the relay's control circuit and connecting it to an alternative power source, likely from the accessory power outlet via a fuse tap.
- β οΈ This temporary fix was implemented to get the customer back on the road quickly, as it's his only vehicle and he risks losing his job.
Conclusion and Future Steps
- β The technician concluded that the TIPM is likely faulty, citing internal circuit board malfunction.
- π While the temporary repair will allow the vehicle to operate, the proper fix would involve replacing the TIPM, which may require programming or using a used module.
- π‘ The technician advises trusting data and facts, but also exercising caution with scan tools and service data, and never trusting anyone on YouTube.
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